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exclusion for minor allocation of a sub circle

Hi,

In the constitution, about the 2.3.3 Exclusion for minor allocations chapter : could we apply this for a sub-circle ? In other words, can a LL exclude the LL of a sub-circle from serving as core circle member ? My interpretation of the constitution would be yes, but just to be sure. 

4 Replies
Bernard Marie Chiquet
09/29/2016

Interesting.. Sounds a bit strange from my experience but from my interpretation of the Constitution, it would be possible. 

I would be interested to know more about the specific case, as a Lead Link Role is a key one and as a LL of a Super-Circle I would need to see all Sub-Circles LL processing tensions and not having to process them as I would have a duty to consider and process Tensions conveyed by the excluded Partner.

Jean-Michel Gode
09/29/2016

Hello Xavier,

Sounds valid governance, but strange situation!

In the uper-circle, LL is just a role. If the role is excluded for minor allocation, that means that the role has a minimal contribution to the uper-circle, so that there is a low coupling between the sub-circle and the uper-circle... Wich is a clue that the 2 circles should be clearly separated actually.

Does that make sense? Regards.

Xavier Boëmare
09/30/2016

Hi,

Thanks for the feedback. To give you more insight of that situation : The upper circle is the GCC.

1. Historically speaking, some roles in that circle are not really connected together (was already the case in the previous hierarchical situation) and some are not in the heart of the GCC main purpose

2. Some of those roles became big enough to be mutated into circle.

@Jean-Michel, I understand the idea of "should be clearly separated". But as they are initially in the GCC, I don't see right away how I should/could propose this, and where should I "send" those !

Bernard Marie Chiquet
09/30/2016
Xavier Boëmare posted:

Hi,

Thanks for the feedback. To give you more insight of that situation : The upper circle is the GCC.

1. Historically speaking, some roles in that circle are not really connected together (was already the case in the previous hierarchical situation) and some are not in the heart of the GCC main purpose

2. Some of those roles became big enough to be mutated into circle.

 

Much clearer with such framing, thanks ! The question thats surfaces to me, is whether those roles in such circle are part of the membrane of GCC (Purpose, Domains, Accountabilities) or is that a bunch of activities that were simply attached to a hierarchical manager as often the case in large companies running the conventional way. I assume it's the latter... and now I think get your original question.

You could create a Super-Circle including the actual GCC + such Circle at the same level - because reality sounds like there are two different sub-holarchies here.... related to the same ex-manager